Episodes

Saturday Sep 23, 2023
#0089 - Joe Justice - Tesla and SpaceX
Saturday Sep 23, 2023
Saturday Sep 23, 2023
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson as they chat with Joe Justice about how Tesla and Space X have developed a new operating model based on self-organising teams that continuously discover, deliver, and improve to achieve a thousand year goal. It's like the most radical combination of open space agility, OKR's, Continuous Discovery, Continuous Delivery and Continuous Improvement, you can think of. Whatever you think of Elon Musk, these companies are way ahead of most other companies and accelerating further. Tune in for a fascinating discussion about how Tesla and SpaceX work.
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Connect with Joe on LinkedIn or at https://abi-agile.com/ or https://www.youtube.com/c/JoeJustice0/videos
Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility.
You can read the podcast transcript at:
https://agiledata.io/podcast/no-nonsense-agile-podcast/tesla-and-spacex-with-joe-justice/#read
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Friday Sep 15, 2023
#0088 - Ivar Jacobson - Essence
Friday Sep 15, 2023
Friday Sep 15, 2023
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson as they chat with Ivar Jacobson about Essence; a standard to develop patterns and pattern libraries that is being used by Scrum, SAFE, Lean and Kanban organisations. We discuss object oriented software engineering, use cases, UML, RUP, Essence and AI assisted method coaching. Join us to hear from one of the founders of the software engineering industry.
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Connect with Ivar on LinkedIn or at https://www.ivarjacobson.com/
Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility.
You can read the podcast transcript at:
https://agiledata.io/podcast/no-nonsense-agile-podcast/essence-with-ivar-jacobson/#read
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Saturday Sep 02, 2023
#0087 - Stephen Bungay - The Art of Action
Saturday Sep 02, 2023
Saturday Sep 02, 2023
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson as they chat with Stephen Bungay about the art of action. What can managers learn about leading in uncertain conditions from military history and modern NATO tactics? Military history shows that predictive plans and standard operating procedures work well when we are doing the same thing a thousand times, but fail badly when there's uncertainty, friction or competition, as there always is in software product development. Stephen explains how the military uses mission command to empower teams to achieve the leader's intent in an uncertain world. He explains the mission briefing process, the back briefing process and the review process. And he tells lots of entertaining stories from military history to explain his point. Join us to learn how to become a much more effective leader in conditions of uncertainty.
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Connect with Stephen on LinkedIn or at https://www.agilestrategy.co.uk/
Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility.
You can read the podcast transcript at:
https://agiledata.io/podcast/no-nonsense-agile-podcast/the-art-of-action-with-stephen-bungay/#read
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Friday Aug 18, 2023
#0086 - Jose Corella - Empowering teams to take initiative
Friday Aug 18, 2023
Friday Aug 18, 2023
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson as they chat with Jose Corella about how leadership principles from the US air force can be applied in civilian organizations. Discover how effective leaders empower teams to think critically and take initiative to achieve the goal. Learn about mission command red team thinking, servant leadership and the power of leadership training. Tune in for practical insights to enhance your leadership skills.
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Friday Jul 21, 2023
#0085 - Jen Pahlka - Recoding America
Friday Jul 21, 2023
Friday Jul 21, 2023
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson as they chat with Jennifer Pahlka about her new book, Recoding America. Why government is failing in the digital age and how we can do better. In this episode, we discuss why governments at all levels produce poor quality online services, like healthcare.gov in the US, that cost of fortune and a very difficult to use. Jennifer explains that government is hamstrung by a rigid, hierarchical, risk avoidant waterfall culture, where everyone involved adds rules and requirements to protect themselves from blame. But there is an agile product development approach taking hold in government that produces much better outcomes and she discusses how it can and should be implemented in every bureaucracy.
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Connect with Jen on LinkedIn or at https://www.recodingamerica.us/
Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility.
You can read the podcast transcript at:
https://agiledata.io/podcast/no-nonsense-agile-podcast/recoding-america-with-jennifer-pahlka/#read
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Sunday Jul 09, 2023
#0084 - Jeff Patton - Product thinking and user story mapping
Sunday Jul 09, 2023
Sunday Jul 09, 2023
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson as they chat with Jeff Patton about product thinking and user story mapping. Jeff emphasises that product thinking focuses on outcomes, not output. He explains that product market fit requires a deep understanding of customers and users problems and a balance of customer desirability, business value and technical feasibility. We discuss how to build a user story map and develop a release plan that reduces your risk and delivers as much value as possible within the time and budget available. Jeff discusses the limitations of requirements and the value of prototyping. He suggests that IT teams should focus on delivering user outcomes rather than delivering requirements. Tune in for insights on how to use user story mapping to deliver great products.
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Friday Jun 23, 2023
#0083 - Ryan Lysne - Amazons product development process
Friday Jun 23, 2023
Friday Jun 23, 2023
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson as they chat with Ryan Lysne a product director at Amazon in charge of the Amazon app, the content creator economy and worldwide events. We ask whether Amazon is agile and discuss the structure of Amazon product teams. Then we talk about the 10 step product management cycle that Amazon product teams use. We talk about how they discover what customers want. How they pitch for funding, the technical development process and their focus on experimentation and analyzing customer behavior. We talk about data as a product, what it takes to make this process a success and the danger of turning it into a new bureaucracy.
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Connect with Ryan on LinkedIn or on Medium
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You can read the podcast transcript at:
https://agiledata.io/podcast/no-nonsense-agile-podcast/amazons-product-development-process-with-ryan-lysne/#read
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Tuesday Jun 13, 2023
#0082 - Peter Lam - Fixing agile transformations
Tuesday Jun 13, 2023
Tuesday Jun 13, 2023
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson as they chat with Peter Lam, a management consultant specialising in fixing agile transformations. We delve into the value of consulting playbooks. The debate around centralised agile approaches and the disconnect between executives and workers. We examine why organisations often revert to bureaucracy after substantial change and the barriers functional silos post to agility. We discuss the Victorian government's flawed COVID response and how executives can foster agile change by removing organisational blockers to team progress. Finally we explore why those rising within a functional hierarchy often resist agility and how executives emphasis on process can stifle innovative organisations.
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Connect with Peter on LinkedIn
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Friday May 26, 2023
#0081 - Jem ’Jelly’ D’jalel - Can you be an agile project manager
Friday May 26, 2023
Friday May 26, 2023
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson as they discuss agile project management with certified scrum trainer, Jem Jelly (Jem D'jalel). We ask whether agile project management is possible or if it contradicts the principles of agile. We debate whether projects are inherently predictive, siloed, and staged or whether they can be adaptive fluid and cross-functional. And we discuss whether project managers are inevitably authoritarian assholes or if they can be adaptive servant leaders. Murrays explains how he uses agile practices and principles in project management. While Shane argues they cant co-exist. Join us for this insightful discussion on agile project management
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Saturday May 13, 2023
#0080 - Jim Highsmith - From the Wild West to Agile and Beyond
Saturday May 13, 2023
Saturday May 13, 2023
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson as they chat with Jim Highsmith, one of the authors of the agile manifesto. We discuss the history of software development from the wild west to structured methods. The agile movement and the courageous leaders who implemented it . We talk about what agile is. The agile mindset. The problems agile solves and why it took off. We talk about what's missing from the agile manifesto and what was harder for the industry to understand than people thought. We discuss the problems with the agile industrial complex. The problem with safe. And the life coaches taking over agile coaching. And finally we discuss agile leadership and what comes next? Join us for a fascinating discussion with one of the founders of the agile movement.
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Connect with Jim on LinkedIn or at http://jimhighsmith.com/
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