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Friday Mar 18, 2022
#030 - Alidad Hamidi - systems thinking
Friday Mar 18, 2022
Friday Mar 18, 2022
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Alidad Hamidi about Systems Thinking. Systems Thinking is about understanding that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. It is the interactions between things that drive the outcome. For example, cutting costs locally often increases costs globally. One person's solution is often another person's problem. To solve the real problem, we need to bring people together to agree on the issue, the goal and the scope of the system. Then we need to keep asking why until we can create a model of how everything interacts. Then we can design a solution, try it out and see what happens to the system as a whole. As we are doing this, we need to look at the interactions between our system and other systems. And we need to look outside the agile community for ideas and solutions.
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Friday Mar 11, 2022
#029 - Steve Tendon - Tameflow and the theory of constraints
Friday Mar 11, 2022
Friday Mar 11, 2022
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Steve Tendon about Tameflow and the theory of constraints. If you can find the constraint preventing the organisation from achieving its goal and address it, you can make extraordinary improvements in performance. But sadly most improvement efforts fail because they don't address the constraint in the system. We talk about how to understand and address the constraint using the story of Herbie and the scout troop going for a hike. And what happens when you drive a group of jeeps through the jungle. We discuss the importance of unity of purpose, a community of trust and inspired leadership. And we talk about how we need to change leaders' mental models and psychological incentives to align with the goal.
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Friday Mar 04, 2022
#028 - Daniel Mezick - open leadership
Friday Mar 04, 2022
Friday Mar 04, 2022
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Daniel Mezick about open leadership. What motivates people and how to get great results in a group. Organizations are social games with goals, rules and players with different resources and decision rights. Most organizations are totalitarian dictatorships with a heavy management tax. Open organizations are much more effective at harnessing the talents of their people and resources. Harness peoples talents by giving them an attractive goal, clear boundaries, leadership support and the right to make decisions about their own work. Be generous, calm and support your people.
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Friday Feb 25, 2022
#027 - Scott Middleton - agile is dead McKinsey killed it
Friday Feb 25, 2022
Friday Feb 25, 2022
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Scott Middleton about his article Agile is dead. McKinsey killed it. The Agile PMO. Agile as a cost out tool. Slathering the Agile word onto everything to sell services. Do big consulting companies really understand Agile? What about people and interactions over processes and tools. What about delivering value to customers early and often? Real agile still has a lot of value. Tailoring your agile approach and getting close to customers.
Read Scott's article https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/agile-dead-mckinsey-just-killed-scott-middleton/
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Friday Feb 18, 2022
#026 - Tobias-Mayer - self organisation and servant leadership
Friday Feb 18, 2022
Friday Feb 18, 2022
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Tobias Mayer about self organization and servant leadership. Everyone can be a leader. Take responsibility. Be generous and humble. Stop demotivating people. Create an environment for people to be brilliant. Create a vision, define boundaries and get out of the way. Be a servant leader. Empowerment and anarchism. Servant leadership and Christianity. There's nothing better than having a good relationship with another human being. Help people step into their brilliance.
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Friday Feb 11, 2022
#025 - Maarten Dalmijn - product owner vs product manager
Friday Feb 11, 2022
Friday Feb 11, 2022
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Maarten Dalmjin on Product Owners vs Product Managers. What are they, what's the difference between them and why does it matter? Why do we need a product manager if we have a product owner? Overwhelmed vs Absentee product owner. Supporting the Product Owner. Product discovery. The sprint bubble. The rift between product management and scrum. Rapid feedback loops. Getting close to the customer. Building the right thing. Dual track vs integrated design. Scaling product development. Anti patterns. Product Management is more than Scrum.
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Friday Feb 04, 2022
#024 - Alex Stokes - Organisation transformation
Friday Feb 04, 2022
Friday Feb 04, 2022
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Alex Stokes on Agile Transformation. Why do organisations do agile transformations? If agile transformations are working why is the state of agile so poor in large organisations? Is a waterfall transformation process incompatible with agile? Measuring the benefits of a transformation. Transformations are a way to get leadership support for major change. Imposing vs empowering. Coaching vs telling. Patterns vs frameworks. Continuous change vs transformational change. Using agile to become agile.
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Friday Jan 28, 2022
#023 - SAFe and Scaling with Al Shalloway
Friday Jan 28, 2022
Friday Jan 28, 2022
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Friday Jan 21, 2022
#022 - Fredrik Carleson - SAFe from the Business Owners point of view
Friday Jan 21, 2022
Friday Jan 21, 2022
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Friday Jan 14, 2022
#0021- 3 amigos
Friday Jan 14, 2022
Friday Jan 14, 2022
Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a discussion of the Three Amigos pattern, where a product person, a developer, and a tester work ahead of the team to define features before estimation. We explore the benefits, challenges, and anti-patterns of the three Amigos approach, emphasising the importance of early preparation, collaboration and testable requirements.
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Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility.
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